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=Skype Chat from September 19, 2007 (partial)=

David Jakes added Darren Kuropatwa to this chat 19/09/07 6:20 PM ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:20 PM

my skype contact list is too small David Jakes 19/09/07 6:20 PM

I'll add him Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:20 PM

heh ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:20 PM

lol 19/09/07 6:20 PM

daaaaaarreeennnn David Jakes 19/09/07 6:21 PM

Darrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 19/09/07 6:21 PM

Manipulation of time and space of learning Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:21 PM

Sounds very Star Trek-ish ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:22 PM

wait...i'm closer David Jakes 19/09/07 6:22 PM

Manitoba joke ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:22 PM

lol David Jakes 19/09/07 6:22 PM

abouuuuutttt 19/09/07 6:22 PM

I love the way they say that ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:23 PM

i say it that way...minnesota kid David Jakes 19/09/07 6:23 PM

Yeah I know, its cool Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:23 PM

"We have ways of making you pronounce the letter O" 19/09/07 6:23 PM

-- Canadian Bacon David Jakes 19/09/07 6:23 PM

operate at creation, involves every other level of Bloom's taxonomy 19/09/07 6:24 PM

ooughtt... 19/09/07 6:24 PM

sweeet 19/09/07 6:24 PM

Canadian Bacon rocks Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:24 PM

Did you guys see Alan Levine's presentation last year? ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:25 PM

no David Jakes 19/09/07 6:25 PM

Yep, that was one of the most creative things Ive seen Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:25 PM

same. unreal. David Jakes 19/09/07 6:25 PM

now talking about snb 19/09/07 6:25 PM

there is no escape ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:25 PM

Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:25 PM

http://cog dog.wikisp aces.com/k 12online06 David Jakes 19/09/07 6:26 PM

he's got a good point, teachers have to have standing to do this, and it means doing it first themselves 19/09/07 6:26 PM

classroom = silo Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:26 PM

Do you think they have to do it in order to open it up to your classroom? David Jakes 19/09/07 6:26 PM

yes 19/09/07 6:26 PM

they have to understand the importance, the power, before they can bring it to kids Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:26 PM

Look at Vicki Davis's projects. Students were using the tools and pushing the boundries and teachers were overseeing 19/09/07 6:27 PM

I worry about teachers being the bottleneck in some environments David Jakes 19/09/07 6:27 PM

I still believe you have a much stronger experience if the teacher has done it Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:27 PM

agreed ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:27 PM

totally agreed David Jakes 19/09/07 6:27 PM

thats the problem, too many bottlenecks ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:27 PM

"you have to own it" David Jakes 19/09/07 6:27 PM

absolutely ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:28 PM

my mission this year is to break walls David Jakes 19/09/07 6:28 PM

thats a nice wiki name ijohnpederson 19/09/07 6:28 PM

mission = too jargon, but heck Steve Dembo 19/09/07 6:28 PM

There's a goal for ya.

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View earlier messages: 1 Week Steve Dembo added bioharv to this chat 9/19/07 6:35 PM Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:36 PM

And welcome Brett loriabr 9/19/07 6:36 PM

Ok Skype, webinar and twitter all at once. 9/19/07 6:36 PM

is this a little too virtual? Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:36 PM

how do you do it all? Steve Dembo added tstandha to this chat 9/19/07 6:36 PM Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:36 PM

Welcome Tracy Vinnie Vrotny 9/19/07 6:36 PM

very few teachers are pushing boundries. Been revisiting your post about sustaining momenum, davide ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:37 PM

am i here? 9/19/07 6:37 PM

lol Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:37 PM

had interesting conversation with my son at dinner, he doesn't expect his teachers to use any technology because he says they don't know how to use it ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:37 PM

/holding djakes' hand tstandha 9/19/07 6:37 PM

HI Steve, just getting the hang of this. Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:38 PM

On a sidenote, I love the fact that credit is given for all the images used. loriabr 9/19/07 6:38 PM

Unfortunately I work with teachers who are like your son's tstandha 9/19/07 6:38 PM

hey.... ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:38 PM

that's a great tweak loriabr 9/19/07 6:38 PM

I'm trying so hard to show them the way in baby steps Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:38 PM

Lori, what's so cool is I'm offering PD to the teachers in my district - hope to faciliate change loriabr 9/19/07 6:39 PM

I try to do the PD too ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:39 PM

i just had a great conversation about this today Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:39 PM

sent the link to K12 online to our adminstrators - keeping my fingers crossed loriabr 9/19/07 6:39 PM

need admin support and funding too ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:39 PM

give them 20 minute chunks of learning, but also train their administrators to model this loriabr 9/19/07 6:39 PM

Can't get my admin to go to our local conference that I plan and organize - so sad Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:39 PM

Share your thoughts: Better to have multiple chat windows for a presentation like this, or have everyone in one chat window? Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:40 PM

Lori, where do you work? loriabr 9/19/07 6:40 PM

IL tstandha 9/19/07 6:40 PM

I'd love to know how to get the "old school" admin on board. loriabr 9/19/07 6:40 PM

Heh David - gave your name to my admin to come out - not sure what they will do 9/19/07 6:40 PM

I try Vinnie Vrotny 9/19/07 6:41 PM

How old school? I have been able to make baby steps with my admins tstandha 9/19/07 6:41 PM

I can't get even an inch. loriabr 9/19/07 6:41 PM

I keep sending links, the teacher tube videos ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:41 PM

@dembo: I need neutral (see me later, it's not a me vs. corporate thing) ground Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:41 PM

energized by the collaborations that have resulted by these kinds of connections - blogs, twitter, etc. How can we keep this to ourselves? tstandha 9/19/07 6:41 PM

"Must focus on raising student acheivement and technology is not a part of that" Vinnie Vrotny 9/19/07 6:42 PM

@djakes I also brought up your name to possibly visit us to talk aobut digital story telling Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:42 PM

Tracy, - why is that person an educator??? loriabr 9/19/07 6:42 PM

Reading and math goals for our SIP tstandha 9/19/07 6:42 PM

Yeah... I know! Steve Dembo added kathryn.staton to this chat 9/19/07 6:42 PM loriabr 9/19/07 6:42 PM

no tech or 21st century literacy 9/19/07 6:43 PM

except now we are writing tech plan - so have to do something I hope Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:43 PM

if kids are engaged, they will learn 9/19/07 6:43 PM

just because the teachers teaches information doesn't mean the students have learned it tstandha 9/19/07 6:43 PM

I agree. But I'm only one person. I've been trying though. Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:44 PM

poor grammar sorry about the type 9/19/07 6:44 PM

typo loriabr 9/19/07 6:44 PM

I keep plugging away Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:44 PM

do you ever get discouraged? ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:45 PM

i spent too long being discouraged... tstandha 9/19/07 6:45 PM

so what did you do? ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:45 PM

did he just say shit? 9/19/07 6:45 PM

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Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:45 PM
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parents call me and tell me their kids hate school or they think they are stupid, it breaks my heart Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:45 PM

And transcribed Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:45 PM

yup ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:46 PM

@karen heard the same thing 3 hours ago 9/19/07 6:46 PM

from a librarian with a high school teacher 9/19/07 6:46 PM

sorry, kid loriabr 9/19/07 6:46 PM

I try not to be discouraged. Offer what I can. Tapped into student council to do podcast Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:46 PM

I'd be curious to see a list of all the websites/tools that were used in last years K12 conference. tstandha 9/19/07 6:47 PM

me too Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:48 PM

how can we get at least one educator and one administrator from EVERY district to attend this conference? 9/19/07 6:48 PM

and one student as well Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:48 PM

Personally, I didn't have time during the conference to watch/attend even a fraction of the events. Been watching them over the course of the last year. ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:48 PM

@karen working on that Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:48 PM

that's the beauty of it - watch when you have time 9/19/07 6:48 PM

what are you doing? 9/19/07 6:49 PM

how are you doing it @ijohn ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:49 PM

i'm selling it one on one Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:49 PM

what is your position? ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:49 PM

one (hopefully) = 2 kathryn.staton 9/19/07 6:49 PM

Steve, how have you been wtachng them ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:50 PM

i work between schools and the state, inbetween, to spread edtech love 9/19/07 6:50 PM

2=4=8=16 Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:50 PM

have to remember that one - spreading edtech love! 9/19/07 6:51 PM

yes, the ripple effect ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:51 PM

zomg! first google doc 9/19/07 6:51 PM

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i'm a connector, new learning tstandha 9/19/07 6:52 PM

working on that one for sure! Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:52 PM

I even ran for school committee to impact change, lost by 180 against two incumbents 9/19/07 6:52 PM

180 votes ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:52 PM

boo, committees Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:53 PM

yes, but they need educators on board tstandha 9/19/07 6:53 PM

form your own edtech love committe! ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:53 PM

Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:53 PM

lol 9/19/07 6:53 PM

I did - I'm on the Technology and Education Foundation Board of Directors we fund teacher initiated technology grants ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:54 PM

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wow this was good 9/19/07 6:55 PM

thanks steve 9/19/07 6:55 PM

and folks loriabr 9/19/07 6:55 PM

thanks for the skype too 9/19/07 6:55 PM

you guys are my new best friends ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:55 PM

wil be back kathryn.staton 9/19/07 6:55 PM

Ok, well talk in the future! Nite all Thanks loriabr 9/19/07 6:55 PM

with twitter etc kathryn.staton has left the chat 9/19/07 6:55 PM Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:56 PM

very fun - see you in twitter! Vinnie Vrotny 9/19/07 6:56 PM

It has been enjoyable all. 9/19/07 6:56 PM

Thanks Steve Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:56 PM

Hey, my pleasure Vinnie Vrotny 9/19/07 6:57 PM

I will. We are talking about March or April tstandha has left the chat 9/19/07 6:57 PM loriabr 9/19/07 6:57 PM

David - I have no idea if anyone will contact you or not, I just suggested - Grayslake d46 is where I work if someone calls Karen Janowski 9/19/07 6:57 PM

very informative Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:57 PM

Thanks 9/19/07 6:57 PM

Looking forward to yours! Vinnie Vrotny 9/19/07 6:58 PM

Seve, I look forward to several other of your presentations in he list loriabr 9/19/07 6:58 PM

OK over and out - see you on twitter or in future skypes ijohnpederson 9/19/07 6:58 PM

i registered for all fo them today, you better remind me when they show up (automagically, of course) Steve Dembo 9/19/07 6:59 PM

later! Vinnie Vrotny has left the chat 9/19/07 7:00 PM